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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by Yikari on Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:04 pm

    Big kudos for the link!

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    It was indeed a very interesting read. I've especially liked the way the Title Drop is done in the epilogue. Also, the 'it's a strictly man-to-man talk' exchange is just so... earnest and cozy.

    I've had a little trouble divining who Bugs was supposed to be (for some reason the idea to check upon the 'characters' section didn't come to me until after I've read through the story), but given the context I imagined him to be something of a Tachikoma.

    Also, Alexei's look reminds me of that fanatic creep Dolf Lundgren played in the Johnny Mnemonic movie.


    Looking at my previous post, it seems that I've given into ranting a bit too much. It almost may give someone an impression that I didn't have KOS-MOS in my party 24\7 throughout all three games :biggrin2:.

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    It wasn't because of her gameplay effectiveness either - I've hoped to get more of that particular brand of deadpan sarcasm she shows so rarely. But it pains me that almost all parts between the beginning and the very end of her character development got lost somewhere along the way.

    I mean, for example, her questioning whether 'pain will make her complete' comes absolutely out of nowhere and doesn't get any kind of follow up scene later. It is T-elos shouting about being finally complete if anything. (Unless I've missed something, of course. There is a certain part during Ep. I directly after the Woglinde incident in which she consistently all but shoos Shion out of the room everytime you try to see if her dialogue box got updated or not that goes completely unexplained for one).


    About people consistently writing characters off:

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    I've been reading a Something Awful FFVII LP by Elentor from time to time and I have been very much surprised by how much people have confessed they've bought into 'Cloud is emo' and some other prevalent character prejudices that suffuse that fandom.

    It's not that I haven't seen such opinion before, but I always thought to myself that some people just tried to somehow connect the characters from FFVII's proper with their Advent Children counterparts (something I've considered a hopeless endeavour, but this is fanfiction, people are gonna do what they gonna do) and moved on.

    Nowadays I think that my underexposure to the fanbase has saved me from being affected by the very same desease. Namely, peer pressure memory manipulation. I don't claim that I know and understand all there is to know and understand about FFVII, no. There were quite a few things I've forgotten, misunderstood or just plain missed entirely. But remaining on the very fringes of the fanwank I've managed to avoid swapping things in my head until they resembled the limitless bashing one can get a faceful of by simply googling a FFVII plot discussion.


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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by RadicalDreamer on Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:08 pm

    @katimus_prime wrote:http://zarathustra.kaisho.org/
    Pied Piper is so worth it. :3

    Thank you for the link. I remember having read Pied Piper before... or maybe just a summary but my memory is filled with holes. I think I'm going to (re)read it. Also, I agree about Ziggy. To think my first thought about him was "What a creepy and ugly dude... and he's noisy damn", ahah. He's one of my favorite Xenosaga character now  :hug: .
    Also, is there any way to enlarge the pictures/illustrations of the game ? They're so tiny...
    It sucks so much that this was a mobile game only released in Japan. I wouldn't mind a remake on 3DS or something (or an anime/movie) but I guess not enough people care for it to happen. Sad because Ziggy has a cool cyber cop backstory. And then, there is Melisse. Assuming she's Doctus, Pied Piper is basically Xenosaga's response to Ghost in the Shell.

    I enjoyed your latest posts about the characters, everyone  :greenjump: .
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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by katimus_prime on Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:20 pm

    A hur hur hur hur hur, before all of my attention got sucked up by Cherenkov, I was seriously crushing hard on Ziggy bigtime because he was the only adult in the sea of underaged kids.

    RE: Enlarging the images on that site, depending on what browser you use, you can usually right click to view the image, then hit CTRL+(the actual plus sign) a bunch of times (this works on every image everywhere - at least in Firefox. To reset it, it's CTRL+0). I think that's their original resolution, but since I don't know the folks behind the site, I can't say for sure. I'm just immensely grateful it exists.

    (I have a ton of unpopular opinions about certain characters, myself, but I'm saving them for the other thread that I totally thought existed but apparently doesn't.)


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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by BlueMetal on Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:26 am

    Mine is KOS-MOS. DON'T SHOOT ME! :shaking:

    She is a fanservice character, I completely agree. When I first got into Xenosaga, I was remembering that my sister had this RPG game from many years ago that had a blue haired android in it as one of the primary characters. If my name and Megaman X avatar didn't already give it away, blue is my favorite color and a lot of my favorite characters involve it. So needless to say, I was attracted by the looks, but I stood attached by the badassery and raw strength. The other thing that attracts me to some characters is being badass but at the same time not an meanie douchebag. (Again, Megaman X! Screw Zero. Razz) What can I say? Women who can fight are quite awesome. And I love playing as characters who deal huge amounts of damage in single hits.

    I can also admit that yes, she had some character development problems along the way until the second half of Episode 3. Unfortunate, but oh well. Though I doubt it's easy either to properly develop the character of an android who doesn't have any story significance until the end where the character she was built to house didn't matter until that point. I can't say for sure though.

    But, my next favorites are Jin, and.. Miyuki!

    Jin, because he reminds me a lot of myself at times, and now and then I can relate to him. He's a cool and sensible guy, who is emotionally strong and doesn't let things get him down so easily. And being physically strong as well is pretty damn cool. (Remember him slicing that mech? Yeah.) The ending to Episode 3. Every time I watch it, I resist as much as possible to choke up and I always say, "Dude. Jin is the freakin' man."

    And Miyuki, because, well, she's just so god damn adorable. It's a shame she gets picked on by Shion all the time. It's not her fault that things suddenly go wrong. She tries! She's smart too, c'mon Shion. If only she got more screen time in Episodes 1 and 2. She had a decent amount in 3, but most of it was being downplayed by Shion. Gosh.

    While we're at it though, I like Episodes 2 and 3 Momo a lot. She's really cute. Like the daughter we all wish we could have. Who doesn't wanna just give her a hug? Episode 1 Momo had that creepy stare of death though.

    Oh, and Mr. Purple X-Face guy on the Woglinde. It's hilarious how someone can be such an asshole with absolutely no punishment or resistance against him. You're all a bunch of slackers! Don't even start thinking that you have a brain to think with!


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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by kare_reiko on Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:56 am

    @katimus_prime wrote:A hur hur hur hur hur, before all of my attention got sucked up by Cherenkov, I was seriously crushing hard on Ziggy bigtime because he was the only adult in the sea of underaged kids.  

    Kat don't forget we have in party even older then Ziggy character XD, he just don't look like he is THAT old XD.

    From later there is Jin too, but I myslef didn't like Jin like Ziggy, but in that problem is lack of more past review in game because of cuts. If they make Jin backstory it would be propably great too.


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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by Yikari on Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:07 am

    I can't understand how we went for so long without mentioning Bunnie.

    That was the coolest (and the creepiest) take on the "eyes on the back of their head" proverb I've ever seen. I don't think the game states it anywhere, but it had come across to me as one of the things that stayed with Shion from early childhood. Thus, I didn't know what to think when I've started meeting them outside of Encephalon from Ep. II onwards XD
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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by katimus_prime on Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:11 am

    @kare_reiko wrote:
    @katimus_prime wrote:A hur hur hur hur hur, before all of my attention got sucked up by Cherenkov, I was seriously crushing hard on Ziggy bigtime because he was the only adult in the sea of underaged kids.  
    Kat don't forget we have in party even older then Ziggy character XD, he just don't look like he is THAT old XD.

    My bad, I shoulda said the only one who LOOKED like an adult in a sea of underaged kids.  XD  Actually, almost everyone in the main cast is well over the age of consent, but the fact that a lot of them look like they don't brings up the nope nope nope nope reaction for me.


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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by RadicalDreamer on Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:08 pm

    I just wanted to say that I've just seen a recent Xenosaga secret on FandomSecrets (and I figured I would talk about it here, since I like Shion alright and understand her). The thing I thought I would never see (except in the archives). I expected not many people to respond to it but I was actually surprised. The secret was adressing Shion's ridiculously big hatedom and I'm glad there ARE actually people to counter it. She wasn't the most pleasant character but she wasn't the typical jRPG waifu-esque female character, she was flawed, she was human, a nerd, with trauma and development... and honestly, if she had been male, she wouldn't have been hated as much. She was kind of a good character to me. It is said in storytelling books that good characters are supposed to be relatable, but not necessarily (all time) likable. And Shion was that. So, this secret made me kind of happy. And people were mostly all Xeno positive (including Xenoblade) so... cool discussion for everyone.
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    Post by opkij on Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:08 am

    As I said in the Xenogears topic, I can't help but to say Wilhelm. It does warm my heart to hear the love for Cherenkov to, absolutely one of the best "side characters" created.
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    Who's your favorite Xenosaga Character?

    Post by AlbedoPiazzolla on Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:05 am

    =P hahaha  just wanted to start a chat xD
    Who is your favorite Xenosaga character?
    You most likely know which character i love!
    Albedo Rules! o/ Gaignun MOMO  
    Meh i don't mind Jr and Gaignun and MOMO though.
    I mostly like Albedo because he's so awesome!

    So you guys can reply to this if you want.
    I'm not popular so i don't think this post will gain lots of people talking on it =P
    Alrighty! Thanks =3

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    Post by opkij on Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:10 pm

    Haha, I don't think your popularity is the problem. The problem is that all the fans
    are hiding somewhere else instead of gathering together on a forum like this. Maybe some of
    them are still trapped in the world of Xenoblade X as well, hehe.

    Anyway, glad to see yet another fan!

    I believe there already is a thread like this but I will answer Wilhelm anyway.
    A bit of a boring choice maybe but he is my favorite after all, the most interesting parts
    about him is sadly never revealed in the games and only hinted at in the books.

    Of course I like Albedo as well, especially when voiced by Crispin Freeman! I like how he
    has the longest entry in the entire database of Episode III but sadly almost no screen time.
    I also find his obsession with death and finding death a bit strange since he after all only is 27
    years old, hmm. But indeed one of the best characters.
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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by stitchedmoon on Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:52 am

    Hey, Albedo!  Welcome aboard!  :3  Things have been a bit quiet around here, but it's always good to see new members.  (If you'd like, you can introduce yourself over in the Welcome Area!)

    As @opkij mentioned, there was a thread about this topic already, so I merged them. :3  My favorite character is Ziggy!


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    Post by stitchedmoon on Mon May 02, 2016 7:47 am

    @RadicalDreamer wrote:
    Also, is there any way to enlarge the pictures/illustrations of the game ? They're so tiny...

    OK, so this is a little bit tangential to the topic of this thread, BUT.

    There's a site called waifu2x (yeah, I know ;P) that you can use to enlarge pictures at a higher resolution.  I randomly remembered it existed last night and tried it out on some Pied Piper screenshots, because of course I did.

    Original:


    waifu'd version (2x scale, medium noise reduction):
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    It ain't perfect, but if you play around with the settings a bit, you can get a pretty good idea of the details in some of those aggravatingly tiny cell phone screencaps.  (What is this, a game for ants?) :V


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    Re: Who is/are your favorite Xenosaga character/s?

    Post by FishyFish_RU on Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:49 am

    My favorite #1 is on my avatar. Reason: best image of a kind character I've seen.
    My favorite number #2 is a tie between Shion and Wilhelm. Reasons for... Shion: very well-developed and easy to empathize with; Wilhelm: I.. don't... know? xD
    My favorite number #3 is U-DO (yeah, I know I'm weird). Reason: such an awesome concept!

    Among less favorite, but still favorite characters: MOMO, Jin, Citrine. They're all very cool.
    A bit less favorite, but still: Dmitri Yuriev. Dammit, I'd have loved to see what happens to him once he's in the other world! Just out of curiosity.
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    Post by stitchedmoon on Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:42 am

    Welcome, Fish!!  (Feel free to post a topic in the Welcome Area if you'd like to introduce yourself!) :3

    U-DO is a really interesting concept.  Some of the games' documentation goes into the worldbuilding stuff re: U-DO and the upper/lower domains in more detail, which I always thought was interesting too.  And Yuriev actually has some backstory in the Pied Piper game!  Or at least he's in it. XD


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